https://wiki.vcmi.eu/index.php?title=Talk:Object_Format&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Object Format - Revision history2024-03-28T14:25:59ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.28.2https://wiki.vcmi.eu/index.php?title=Talk:Object_Format&diff=1372&oldid=prevIvan: /* RMG traits */2014-01-04T23:03:20Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">RMG traits</span></span></p>
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</table>Ivanhttps://wiki.vcmi.eu/index.php?title=Talk:Object_Format&diff=1371&oldid=prevIvan: /* RMG and AI traits */2014-01-04T22:57:12Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">RMG and AI traits</span></span></p>
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</table>Ivanhttps://wiki.vcmi.eu/index.php?title=Talk:Object_Format&diff=1370&oldid=prevWarmonger: /* AI Traits */2014-01-04T18:43:06Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">AI Traits</span></span></p>
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</table>Warmongerhttps://wiki.vcmi.eu/index.php?title=Talk:Object_Format&diff=1369&oldid=prevWarmonger: /* RMG and AI traits */ new section2014-01-04T18:25:13Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">RMG and AI traits: </span> new section</span></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Tags</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Tags do not only help to manage objects in map editor. I fact, all viistable objects in RMG are (probably) assigned to three groups - we can see these groups in RMG templates. Each zone has defined density of objects of some kind. it is important to deduce these groups and force objects to be assigned to some category. Alternative is to separate editor tags and editor category.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Object value - determines if the object will appear in poor or rich zones on a map and strength of its guardians</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Object rarity - how often does the object spawn on the map. Preferably I'd make this parameter float to allow fine-tuningand making some objects very rare. There is also need for algorithm who can draw objects based on their rarity.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* Visual propeties. These may help to group objects on a map in a visually pleasing way. A list of tags should be extensive, but closed to ensure consitency. Visual properties can work as boolean tags or be fractional to allow fine-tuning. Some examples are:</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">** Foliage</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">** Rock</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">** Mountain</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">** Structure</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">** Fauna</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">** Magical</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">** Modern</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">** Ancient</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">For instance one can imagine that Dwarven Treasury has "Mountain" and "Structure" tags, so it appears near mountains and other built structures and not in a middle of forest.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==AI Traits==</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">These traits help AI understand the object and use it in an effective way. For example, AI may need to know which objects could be a source of resources or army. Creature banks cna provide such functionality with their config, but custom objects also do (for example Windmill-like objects).</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">It would be nice if an object type could return complete list of goods it can provide (creatures, resources, artifacts, stats, spells, uncover area maybe?), so AI could plan its actions based on that knowledge.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Warmongerhttps://wiki.vcmi.eu/index.php?title=Talk:Object_Format&diff=1000&oldid=prevIvan at 21:29, 1 February 20132013-02-01T21:29:46Z<p></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::: Creature banks (at least one added by mods) should have their configuration defined in objectData. As for monoliths - good point. Such objects can have one property (in this case - group they're linked with) that usually will be same as subID. [[User:Ivan|Ivan]] ([[User talk:Ivan|talk]]) 22:29, 1 February 2013 (CET)</ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Ivanhttps://wiki.vcmi.eu/index.php?title=Talk:Object_Format&diff=997&oldid=prevTow dragon: /* ID's, subID's and strings */2013-02-01T20:46:01Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">ID's, subID's and strings</span></span></p>
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</table>Tow dragonhttps://wiki.vcmi.eu/index.php?title=Talk:Object_Format&diff=996&oldid=prevTow dragon: /* ID's, subID's and strings */2013-02-01T20:45:22Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">ID's, subID's and strings</span></span></p>
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</table>Tow dragonhttps://wiki.vcmi.eu/index.php?title=Talk:Object_Format&diff=995&oldid=prevTow dragon: /* ID's, subID's and strings */2013-02-01T20:45:07Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">ID's, subID's and strings</span></span></p>
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